it will be out very soon in the u.s. they will make a presentation. but i'm very much looking forward to finish this project. and we have best russians and best what you call western voices, among them reneee poppin or-- kaufman or nina, of course major, major names which are known as wagner singers. but also fantastic russian voices. i think it makes it all together a very interesting combination. >> is there something that would represent your great cowhering ambition and achievement in muss smick? i mean you have you're a builder beyond a conducter. you do all these things. you now celebrate what the 25th anniversary. >> 25th at marinski. >> as my music directorship, 25, artistic directorship which is a good distance it is not a small distance. >> and i saw soviet union falling apart. i saw russia being totally young country trying to build democracy but also trying to save whatever national wealth was there. it was very difficult to understand. was it just gas, oil, was it rivers and forests, was it a vast, vast country, huge territory but also cu